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July 21, 2010

Obama OutFoxed

In light of the phenomenally embarrassing Shirley Sherrod episode still playing out this week (now it’s Shirley, Shirley, please come back!), the question is: when is Obama going to just stop obsessing on these guys — first in hopes for the better and, now, in fear of the worst (especially when the far-right noise has to do with race)?

(Screen shot from Obama – O’Reilly campaign interview, 9/4/08)

  • thomas

    That is an excellent question.

  • Nemo

    Because he has no core. Nobody knows what he really stands for; what is it that he will go to the wall for. He thinks he can convince/please them as if he is some chairman of the board.

    Let’s all get along; don’t want to be the angry black man. Then again, maybe the expectations were too high.

  • Twinky P*

    You do know that the guy who got Sherrod fired is Breitbart, don’t you? Obama didn’t have anything to do with it other than, yet again, get blamed for it. You should watch Maddow’s show from last night, and you might understand. This isn’t racism for racism’s sake, this is using racism as a political tactic to get unconsciously racist people to vote for the racists. As Maddow says: they’ll only stop doing it when it stops working. Obviously, by your blaming Obama, it’s still working. Sad.

  • Jill

    “As Maddow says: they’ll only stop doing it when it stops working. Obviously, by your blaming Obama, it’s still working. Sad.”

    Ahh no! The evidence that it is still working is that the White House responded to a video by the well known liar Brietbart pushed by the well known untrustable Fox news by firing the woman without any investigation.

    I am rather tired of those, like Twinky, who keep making excuses for Obama.

    If Bush was doing what Obama is doing-turning the nation’s health care system over to health care industry corporations, tromping all over our civil liberties, continuing to fund and wage two unnecessary and counterproductive wars, implementing meaningless financial reform, establishing a panel to gut social security, and on and on, perhaps Twinky and his ilk would understand why so many supporters of Obama, like me, feel betrayed.

    Obama is just another run of the mill spineless corporate controlled Democrat. More articulate and a bit brighter than most-but a dismal failure as President during a time of great need. I won’t be fooled again!

  • Twinky P*

    I am rather tired of those, like Twinky, who keep making excuses for Obama.

    And there’s the problem. It’s not about you honey. Everyone’s supposed to keep quiet because you’re tired of hearing other people’s opinions? Well, excuse me for not agreeing with you! I had no idea how exhausted you were.

    There’s a reason Obama doesn’t listen to the online left: you get a cookie and you mewl that you want cake, dammit, and you won’t take anything less. That’s also the reason the talking heads get away with the trope “both sides do it.” You’re just as happy with a dictatorship as long as it’s your dictator as Bush was if he was the dictator.

    The evidence that it is still working is that the White House responded to a video

    So, the political tactic of stoking fear of the black man works because a cabinet member jumped the gun? Vilsack was afraid of what Beck might say, wasn’t he? Beck’s white. Did you even watch the show?

    And could you please produce the evidence that the WH had anything at all to do with the firing? The NAACP overreacted, they apologized. Vilsack overreacted in response to the NAACP’s condemnation, he apologized and is working with Sherrod on getting her back. The one person who’ll probably be fired is the woman who made Sherrod pull over and resign by invoking the WH, when clearly she didn’t have the authority. Even Sherrod confirms this. But no, it’s much more satisfying to whine about the lowly cookie and hope that the next GOP admin will give you cake. Meanwhile, the guy who perpetrated the hoax gets barely a mention. Looks like fear of the black man is coming from you, with your knee jerk assumption that Obama’s always to blame – I guess the GOP’s strategy worked on you, huh?

  • Jill

    “honey.”

    Not a very careful reader are you Mr. Twinky?

    Note that I wrote: “…so many supporters of Obama, like me, feel betrayed.” and I am criticizing Obama for behaving like Bush, not criticizing behavior I would not criticize Bush for doing.

    The woman who phoned Sherrod and three times, the third time telling her to pull to the side of the road and “Blackberry” in her resignation was a White House employee. If I had the time I’d look up the name for you.

  • Jill

    “Looks like fear of the black man is coming from you, with your knee jerk assumption that Obama’s always to blame – I guess the GOP’s strategy worked on you, huh?”

    That’s a pretty cheap shot-you assume that I’m a racist. As I made clear above: I am a former supporter of Obama. I voted for hope and change. What we have got from Obama is a third term (with some minor differences) of G.W. Bush.

    You can call me honey and insult me, but Obama continues the worst policies of the Bush administration-and that’s a fact!

  • Jill

    here you go Mr Twinky:

    The Department of Agriculture employee who resigned after a controversy erupted over recent remarks she made is now saying that the White House forced her resignation.

    Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, however, is taking responsibility for the resignation, and the White House reportedly says it had no part in his decision. (Who you going to believe Mr Twinky? The White House or Ms Sherrod?)

    Shirley Sherrod, the USDA’s former director of rural development in Georgia, said USDA deputy undersecretary Cheryl Cook called her Monday and said the White House wanted her to resign, the Associated Press reports.

    “They called me twice,” Sherrod told the AP, noting that she was driving when she received the calls. “The last time they asked me to pull over the side of the road and submit my resignation on my Blackberry, and that’s what I did.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011099-503544.html

  • Jill

    And Mr. Twinky the Washington Post just ran a threeday investiative piece about the police state this country has become under Bush and Obama. And Glenn greenwald at Salon and Scott Horton at Harpers, and many others, have written extensively about Obama’s use of the Justice department to prevent investigations into Bush’s war crimes. I presume because Obama is committing many of the same war crimes.

    But, of course Mr. Twinky, all that is forgivable for you, I assume, because Obama is black. Now that sentence wasn’t very fair of me was it Mr Twinky?

  • Twinky P*

    Note that I wrote: “…so many supporters of Obama, like me, feel betrayed.”

    Number one, you must be new to politics to get all emo over a politician not keeping promises. In any case, you wrote “I am sick…” Yeah, yeah, they all say “I supported Obama” these days. Funny how everyone who jumps at the chance to throw away the cookies and demand cake and ponies were the most obnoxious sellers of the pony myth in the first place. They got fooled and now they want us to cry along with them. Anyone who feels betrayed didn’t know what they were supporting in the first place. It’s not Obama’s fault you didn’t listen to what he was saying, but it’s easier to blame him than examine your own mistakes, huh?

    That’s a pretty cheap shot-you assume that I’m a racist.

    Actually, I assumed you were a firebagger, and your assumption that I’m male because I used the word “honey” as well as your assumption that you were called racist makes it seem likely. I’m not a Mr., either, just a southerner who uses terms of endearment regularly. There’s a reason the Southern Strategy worked so well in the past; the fearmongering works on the lizard brain. Everyone’s got some bigotry in them. This garbage from Briteblart works because most of us automatically assume we don’t have a bigoted bone in our bodies. Sorry, but that’s just not true, as even Ms. Sherrod explained in her story. It seems odd, doesn’t it, that the white guy that caused the whole trauma is the only one that doesn’t get the full brunt of your rage.

    You’re also assuming the woman who used the WH threat had permission to do so, which is why I believe she’ll be quietly admonished later when no one’s looking. Did anyone play this thing correctly? No. Is it solely Obama’s fault? No. Do you make a whole lot of assumptions? Yes indeedy.

  • Jill

    “You’re also assuming the woman who used the WH threat had permission to do so, which is why I believe she’ll be quietly admonished later when no one’s looking.”

    So you are assuming she didn’t have permission.

    Why should Brietbart, who I called a “well known liar” in my first comment get the “full brundt of my rage” when it’s the cowardly reaction of the White House to his lies that caused Ms. Sherrod to be fired.

    Sorry Honey-Obama is a liar and a war criminal-corporate owned-corporate controlled-just like Bush.

    I won’t be fooled again!

  • Twinky P*

    So you are assuming she didn’t have permission.

    Yep. Why should you have all the fun? Since we don’t know what happened behind the scenes, all assumptions are equally valid, aren’t they? Unless, of course, yours are more true ‘cos they’re yours.

    when it’s the cowardly reaction of the White House to his lies that caused Ms. Sherrod to be fired.

    You’re so silly! There ya go assuming your assumption is correct again.

    I won’t be fooled again!

    Heh. That’s what Bush said. I have a feeling that, like him, you’re gonna get fooled a lot. A sputtering rage like yours is just begging for manipulation, and there are plenty of folks who’ll be happy to oblige.

  • http://wisewebwoman.blogspot.com Wisewebwoman

    Ah – the Bookmark himself. Holding Sarah Palin’s place in the Master Plan, courting Bill O’Liely and others. Busy with all the wars and making nice with BP and firing staff on the false evidence of the right wing media.
    While further bankrupting his country.
    He is not to be trusted or admired. He is merely a willing tool of the Theocorporatocracy.

  • bystander

    Ya know, it really is kind of funny. The Leader of The Free World (put a trademark on that) cowering to right wing bloviators running with a bit of fraudulent tape. This is the perfect photo. Obama leaning forward, tense looking, gesturing with his hands, direct eye contact… all saying, Listen to me… O’Reilly leaning back, totally relaxed, with a skeptical look that says, Convince me.

    It all recalls something I recently read in The New York Magazine (h/t Matt Taibbi’s twitter feed):

    [David] Brooks first met Obama in 2005, when Obama was a freshman senator. He was impressed by Obama’s command of political philosophy, not to mention his tailoring. When Obama’s book The Audacity of Hope came out in 2006, Brooks praised it in his column and urged Obama to run for president.

    Since then, Obama’s team has courted Brooks assiduously. Emanuel once arranged for Obama to swing by a meeting he and Axelrod were having with Brooks. At a dinner of conservative writers at George Will’s house, where the guests included Charles Krauthammer and William Kristol, among others, Obama jokingly asked Brooks, “What are you doing here?” At another meeting with journalists, Brooks sat next to Obama, who would periodically turn to Brooks and point out that the policy being discussed was quite Burkean. “You could tell he was really conscious of his presence,” says his Times colleague Gail Collins. - Christopher Beam

  • Nemo

    Why is it so had to see what the US Presidency has become? Obama is not Bush, but he sure does act like him.

    It should be clear by now that whoever gets to the office of Presidency has to fulfill certain corporate statist requirements. Mrs. Clinton and McCain fulfilled those requirements too; it’s just that Obama won.

    Making excuses or finding justification for Obama’s behaviour is not a useful endeavour. Minimising the US footprint in Iraq, doubling down on Afghanistan and spending billions on war and not enough within the US is a losing proposition. This stupidity will only stop when the whole edifice comes crashing down.

  • http://www.serr8d.blogspot.com serr8d

    …the question is: when is Obama going to just stop obsessing on these guys — first in hopes for the better and, now, in fear of the worst (especially when the far-right noise has to do with race)?

    I guess he’ll stop trying to be the U.S President from the center when far-leftist ‘tards like you appoint him Dictator of the Free World.

    Oh, and Saint Shirley? Isn’t. She’s seen in the full video in full-dirty-socialist dress, bashing Bush and Republicans. She should have been fired for that.

    Got Hatch Act ?

  • black dog barking

    One of the men in the photo is a Nobel laureate, the other gets drunk and tries to bully employees into phone sex. The question, when is the Nobel laureate going to quit trying to include a willfully obtuse scumbag in substantive discussion, is fair.

    Got Fairness Doctrine?

  • Jill

    The Nobel Laureate in the photo above is a fraud. Recall, if you will, that his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize was a defense of the use of war. You know what war is right? It includes ombing and killing women and children. Imprisoning people indefinitely without a trial. Occupying a country that never threatened or attacked us in violation of International Law.
    This Nobel Laureate is a war criminal. It’s only a matter of time before he has his own torture scandal.

  • Jill

    Here’s an editorial in the NY Times about the Obama administration returning prisoners to Algeria for almost certain torture. Call me a whiner but I expected better when I voted for Obama.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/opinion/25sun1.html?ref=opinion

  • Ron

    Jill,

    Enough. You can’t always defend Obama. He was and is a major disappointment for the great masses. He is very much closer to Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon in action. Just because he says the right things the right way, isn’t really a good thing – especially since he almost always moves to the right when making his decision. Obama, Nixon, Reagan – three peas in a pod.

  • John

    Ron-Jill isn’t defending Obama. She is criticizing him.

  • John

    Peas in a pod? How about this? Obama and Bush are both war criminals.